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AlRaqeeb	Corrupt and Dysfunctional Ahmadiyya Jamaat Organization		Lead	[-]
Posts: 632 Jun 16, 2009 21:00:53 Moderator	An Ahmadi writes about a corrupt and dysfunctional organization of Ahmadiyya Jamaat. http://ahmedi.org/blog/blog1.php/2009/06/16/corrupt-and-dysfunctional-jamaat-nizaam
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Ahmadi	no body can run longer with smashed backbone	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 16 Jun 20, 2009 02:34:15	As for as I know about Jammat system, I agree with the views of the author of this article. Yes its truth that corruption is every where in Jammat, its also true that those who want logic and reasoning did not came toward the Jammat for Bait. Its also true that there is no Halaf system for office bearer etc ,. Its again true that the difference between European, American Ahmadis with Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi Ahmadis with regard of Moral values is very high. But I am not clear about the figure of converted English men/women in to Ahmadis. As for as the system of Jammat concerned, so as according to this article it's in severe danger and at way to collapse; if no attention will be given from Head of Jammat toward arising problems of internal system for its sattelment. Coz no body can run longer with smashed backbone. Last Edited By: Ahmadi Jun 20, 2009 09:24:26. Edited 2 times.
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Londonahmadi	Corruption is high in jamat of UK	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1 Jun 20, 2009 12:45:50	Corruption is high in jamat of UK 90% Ahmadi live in UK are Living on income support ( take money form council and do not work.) Thats one of reason more and more people come from germany. 80% ahmadi only to taxi and take cash in hand so no one know what they earn each day or month. Why mr masoor not ask his people or check from where they earn money. Internal jamat system is full of corruption too. People whom have big position take all work to there on companies for any work need to be done on Jamat property. Have you seen any advertisement or hear that jamat top people issue any letter that jamat need some work to be done... Know I give you simple example. Staff which work in jamat all of them take money from council and happy to work for free in jamat but same people not work if council give them any job. I am happy to supply names of those people whom take money from council and show they are too good for jamat and work free for jamat.. no this is wrong they take money from council see what car they drive. etc...
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Ahmadi	key Reasons behind the corruption in Jammat	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18 Jun 20, 2009 14:10:11	Mr londonahmadi what do you think that what are reasons behind this corruption in jammat. are we dont believe on jammat taleem or Nizam-a-Jammat is become outdated or any other reasons for this corruption you want to meantion, which the author of this article didnot meantion? the question arrises here is that that why this corruption is deep rooted in Nizam-a-Jammat and how it happens and when it was going to happen then the officers of jammat were where? Last Edited By: Ahmadi Jun 20, 2009 14:17:05. Edited 1 time.
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Londonahmadi	Corruption is deep rooted in Nizam-a-Jammat and in officers of jammat	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2 Jun 21, 2009 17:10:44	Please go and ask Jamat whom stolen £50000 last month from southfield masque. If you not get answer I will give you. Ask why they delete all security videos etc...
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profitprophet		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 405 Jun 22, 2009 01:25:40	Londonahmadi wrote: Please go and ask Jamat whom stolen £50000 last month from southfield masque. If you not get answer I will give you. Ask why they delete all security videos etc... You plz. give us answer here:d
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Ahmadi		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 21 Jun 22, 2009 03:06:51	Yes Mr Londonahmadi plz provide the answer here on this web site
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abcde	level of ...	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3 Jun 22, 2009 08:15:42	well. interesting toipic but the starter's use of WORDS AND SENTENCES are below par, rather i would say that its "NERSARY STUDENT level"..... well. i would give only one example....... there r 52 MUSLIM COUNTIRES IN WORLD,. and CURRENT ANALYSIS SAY THAT NOT EVEN ONE OF THEM IN working on as said in SHARIYA. and muslisms are also involved in bad activities.... SO , WHAT THAT MEANS ...?? CAN ANY "muslim" SAY THAT (nauzobillah) ISLAM HAS BECOME OUTDATED,AS SEE IN WHAT CONDITION TODAYS MUSLIMS ARE ....>...????? if so , THAN , i can only pray for THAT PERSON ...... ELSE IF I SAY THAT today's muslims r NOT WORTHY ENOUGH TO B FOLLWER OF TRUE RELIGION ISLAM, ... if ur answer is YES , then it WOULD MAKE SENSE... same is the case here. if self claimed "ahmadi" say that this DIVINE JAMMAT's Nizam is out dated... then I CAn only pray for his/her better RELIGIOUS KNOWELDGE .... i am not saying that , there are NO BAD person in Jammat, as bad people r every where,. (MAY B HeRE in this community also), but ON THAT BASIS THAT , A CERTAIN PERSON HAS COMMITED A PARTICULER MISTAKE, SO His/Her SECT believes , faiths.. etc , r wrong...WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE..???..! i wil agin like to give example that , WORLD best and LAST SHARIYAHA is QURAN .. if a particluer MUSLIM , do some thIng aginst that...WOULD U START SAYING THAT (NAUZOBILLAH) QURAN IS OUTDATED AND DIS-FUNCTIONAL.....????????
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Ahmadi		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 26 Jun 22, 2009 12:48:03	Mr abcde as participant of this discussion I read all of your comment, I also read this article, being an Ahmadi I know some facts which I will share with you people All Ahmadis have this confirm knowledge that existing Nazam-a-Jammat is made by peoples and also it's governed by the peoples So all the things are ''FANI'' as according to Quran and. So are you, and Nizam-a-Jammat is true regarding its life or Quran is true that nothing is endless except Almighty ALLAH. Defiantly as an Ahmadi we all have believe that Quran is true. Second thing is that none of Muslim country claimed that they are running as according to true sharia, its only Jammat who claimed that Jammat is running as according to true sharia. When Jammat is running as according to true sharia and it have a complete and true Nizam-a-Jammat then how it's possible that corruption induced at every level of Jammat. Its mean that with the effect of time there are some gaps and cracks produced which are providing the chances to corrupt persons to get influence as you are saying that bad people are also in Jammat. If Jammat is running on true sharia and have corruption proof Nizam-a-Jammat then from where the joints of corruption are inducing and producing in it. When the top rankers of Jammat are facing the allege of corruption then any one from whole Jammat can be assumed as a corrupt. Because its took years when leadership got corrupt. And this leadership is representing the whole Jammat. And also come from the Jammat, this leadership is not alien; they are our relatives, friends and having same body structure as you and I have. Mr abcde kindly come to on ground realities and faces them bravely. As according to another article the Ahmadis are not even have their court system independent. I have an advice for you; kindly acquire some knowledge via deep dive in Nizam-a-Jammat. Then you will come to know the on ground realities, because your level of knowledge is at beginning stage regarding current realities of current Nizam-a-Jammat. Last Edited By: Ahmadi Jun 22, 2009 14:11:27. Edited 1 time.
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ahmadilarki		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3 Jun 24, 2009 16:10:27	Please Please Please Can anyone ask to all head of jamat peoples why so much corruption and why ahmadi whom live in England are on council and take tax payers money and same time try work as self employed and do cabbing. Why jamt not take this issue and check whom is good and honest ahmadi and his earning is legal and he is honest with jamat and with british system. Know days even government have even bring MPs issue in pubilc and take all money which MPs misused. What jamat ahmadi do on these kind of issues . Please dont say jamat is clean and honest.. I see every day from top to bottom in jamat of ahmadis cheating system. Thing is where to complain. no system to complain. Just write a letter to Mr Masroor. How to track. I see everyday all ahmadi drive cab and live in council house and take money from council.. there are only 2% which have full time jobs or educated. Please ask jamat how may English people are converted to ahmadi as jamat in England from last 50yrs or more. All top memebers of jamat is making money from jamat and no control on this. Waste money on functions parties food etc. In future this kind of complains should be forward to local authority. Mr Masroor is head of ahmadi jamat all over and he should answer able to anything goes wrong in ahmadi jamat and he should be punish for anything his member do wrong or cheat a system. Anyone can please tell me Whom stolen £50000 from London Masque in southfield ? Why all security films delete for that day. whom order ? Anyone can tell us What is Mr Masroor monthly income does he pay tax or only he is allowed to collect gifts and cash from people. Please ahmadi people go and see living style of Mr Masroor son whom live with Mr Masroor and Mr Masroor Daughter Husband what life style he live. Are they pay tax. this is drama for and make money from people. Ahmadi jamat have to stop all this waste of money. Mr Masroor should work full time and then give time to ahmadi jamat. We use this service because we can hide over name. Jamt ahamdi have no setup for complain. If you wish to complain they will say write letter to Mr masroor and if he like then he will forward it to his staff. but if he not like it will go to bin. and no way to track your letter. no referance. We are happy and out of jamat. Sorry ahamdi brother and sisters I know where i can give my money. i am hapy to help my on brother and sisters and family uncle and cousins if they are poor first right is there. If we give to Ahmadi jamat then over money will go to Mr Masroor then he will spend where ever he like. and it will go to Hotels parties some time end up in stock market shares bounds. Ask jamat ahmadi last year 2008 London Jalsa whom stay in Brighton Hilton Hotel for 3 days and why jamat paid £4000 for them. Why so much money spend on parites and functions. Non of UK charity org is spending so much money on parties and functions.... Is this Mr Masroor own money he spend. or this is chanda money they took from us and spend. 1st Mr Masroor should spend is own money on Mta and parties and fuctions, Not only this.. lot more... Sorry ahamdi brothers and sisters i have a full rights to ask Mr Masroor and he should answer and if anything wrong Mr Masroor should correct it and if not them punish his staff.
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Ahmadi	independent judiciary is now the basic requirement of Ahmadis	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 28 Jun 25, 2009 02:15:17	We want Independent judiciary; Which have authority to call Khalifa-a-Waqt Which have only and only fear of almighty ALLAH
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Ahmadi		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 34 Jun 27, 2009 01:51:44	It's true that Jammat system is function just with in few hands. These hands are ever trying to make them self hidden from people of Jammat. This system is corrupt and having lots of malfunctioning with in it. As its mention in article by the author, we Ahmadis also want to replace this system strongly.
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